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University of North Dakota Hockey 2017-18 Season

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Just now, sprig said:

I'm with you just because it feels good

Nothing feels good today

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7 minutes ago, UND1981 said:

Except rodents losing as #1 seed to #4 Notre Dame.

That didn't make me feel good because I expected that... 

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5 minutes ago, siouxforce19 said:

That didn't make me feel good because I expected that... 

Still made me feel good. My neighbor was giving me a hard time yesterday for UND losing, so it's nice to return the favor.

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2 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Is Tucker 100% gone? What if he wants to play with his brother again and have the final season he deaerves. You'd have to think watching yesterday's game had an impact on him.

Wouldn't be surprised that if he doesn't sign in the next week, he stays. 

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Be interesting to see what guys stay and go. Jost should stay for one more year. He idle, Toews, played 2 years at UND. Comeback and a wear a "C" next year as a sophomore!

Tomek and Wilkie? Do they transfer? I would encourage Wilkie to stay and hit the off-season super hard. I feel like if he can score a few goals his confidence will change tremendously. 

I think you're gonna see the coaching staff bring in as many offensive freshman guys as they can.  Next year's team could be pretty lethal. 

Pogo? He'll probably leave, but should come back for 1 more year. He hasn't hit his ceiling yet in the college level. He had an okay junior year but I selfishly expected more. 

Cam - not sure why he would leave, other than getting a contract. He'd be playing in the ECHL/"maybe" a few AHL games if best next year. The road for goalies is a difficult one. 

No one else should leave, but there's always surprises. We shall see. 

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People need to quit using Toews as an example for Jost staying. Toews came in a year early. If Jost signs, he will have signed at the same age as Toews.

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8 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:

People need to quit using Toews as an example for Jost staying. Toews came in a year early. If Jost signs, he will have signed at the same age as Toews.

You use age,  we use 2 years.  It ain't over till it's over

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Just now, sprig said:

You use age,  we use 2 years.  It ain't over till it's over

Age is what matters in this situation.

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17 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:

People need to quit using Toews as an example for Jost staying. Toews came in a year early. If Jost signs, he will have signed at the same age as Toews.

Toews was better than Jost.

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8 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:

Age is what matters in this situation.

It is, in that he's too young to burn a year of entry level $

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I think something that could play a factor will be whether or not the NHL releases the players to go to the olympics. 

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The Avalanche are such a mess.  I hate to see Jost go into that situation.  Bad owners, bad GM, and rookie coach.  And its been going on for awhile.  They are at the salary cap and have some guys signed up to long-term deals who can't play dead in the NHL.  Don't know what he can do except stay until his signing deadline is passed, but that isn't going to happen.   He is not ready for the NHL though.  Especially with a bad team where he is thrown into the fire immediately.

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What's the ratio of Frosh who left and ended up with non-descript pro careers v the Frosh who left and went on to sustained success?

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38 minutes ago, dden3 said:

The Avalanche are such a mess.  I hate to see Jost go into that situation.  Bad owners, bad GM, and rookie coach.  And its been going on for awhile.  They are at the salary cap and have some guys signed up to long-term deals who can't play dead in the NHL.  Don't know what he can do except stay until his signing deadline is passed, but that isn't going to happen.   He is not ready for the NHL though.  Especially with a bad team where he is thrown into the fire immediately.

Yep,  some decent young forwards,  but won't be relevant until the D is upgraded.  Toews and Kane entered a much different situation,  when they signed with Chicago

 

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2 hours ago, scpa0305 said:

Toews was better than Jost.

Toews got to play with Oshie and Duncan. I personally was to busy watching Oshie to notice Toews. Not saying he wasn't good or anything but Oshie had the offensive flare that I'm sure other teams tried to contain. That left Duncan with every opportunity to shine and he took full advantage of it. 

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Jost stays and UND will be a NCAA tournament team next year. He doesn't stay...................well.

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31 minutes ago, Sioux Hawky said:

Toews got to play with Oshie and Duncan. I personally was to busy watching Oshie to notice Toews. Not saying he wasn't good or anything but Oshie had the offensive flare that I'm sure other teams tried to contain. That left Duncan with every opportunity to shine and he took full advantage of it. 

Jost is quicker down low but other than that Toews was amazing to watch and better in every other aspect. Jost is pretty damn good though. I think he should stay one more year and work on his scoring, and his title winning.

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31 minutes ago, Sioux Hawky said:

Toews got to play with Oshie and Duncan. I personally was to busy watching Oshie to notice Toews. Not saying he wasn't good or anything but Oshie had the offensive flare that I'm sure other teams tried to contain. That left Duncan with every opportunity to shine and he took full advantage of it. 

And I bet if you asked Osh, he say that he got to play with Toews.  You didn't notice Toews as much, because he was always in the right place. 

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1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said:

Jost is quicker down low but other than that Toews was amazing to watch and better in every other aspect. Jost is pretty damn good though. I think he should stay one more year and work on his scoring, and his title winning.

Jost had a couple games where he looked like he was NHL ready...he also had games where he was a non-factor such as the last one.  

For Jost it might be a similar situation to Nick Schmaltz.  Depending on off-season moves by the Avs, he would turn if the roster situation becomes favorable.  True, his deal slides should he turn and not get 10 games in the NHL, but if he is all but guaranteed his 10, he'll go.  If I'm in mgt in Colorado, I am also a little concerned by the lack of true development/improvement in his game over the past few months.  

 

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If I were coach (and its good I'm not), I would have had talks with Jost about Captaining the 2017-2018 UND team.

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Reasons for Jost to stay:

1.  Captain UND on a chance at redemption and a natty run

2.  Chance to win WJC gold with Canada

3.  Know that you are the man, and live the college high life for one more year

4.  Work on small details with a lot of practice time, have more time to get bigger and stronger

5.  Uncertainty on NHL vs AHL

6.  Colorado does not have the pieces in place for him to enter a winning culture/environment

Reasons to go:

1.  $ 

2.  $$

3.  $$$

4.  Achieve your lifelong dream suiting up in the NHL

5.  Good chance at full season in NHL

 

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FWIW someone on Schloss' blog stated Jost just signed a year lease in Gf... hope it's true 

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