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Early departures 2017

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33 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Including us, right? :silly:

They'll have to go through us if they want to repeat as NCHC and NCAA champions. We will have a much better team next year and will be back in contention for both titles. But I guess we'll have to just wait and see what happens.

:lol:  And last year, your line was that Denver would have to go thru the defending NCAA champions, the king of the mountain, as I believe you called UND, in order to win a title themselves.  

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1 minute ago, MafiaMan said:

:lol:  And last year, your line was that Denver would have to go thru the defending NCAA champions, the king of the mountain, as I believe you called UND, in order to win a title themselves.  

And that was an accurate description of our program at the time. We were "the king of the mountain". Denver really didn't have to go through us, we were in different regions and we didn't make the Frozen Four last year. But as defending champions, everyone wants a piece of your hide and Denver will have to run that gauntlet next season. You will get everyone's A game every night, every weekend. While having most of your top players back will make that easier, it will be a grind for them. Meanwhile, UND won't have that pressure, especially with the young guys we will count on for scoring next year.

And finally, several years ago, Denver had a team that the Denver Post was anointing the NCAA title, saying "the stars are aligned". Well, something called RIT knocked those stars out of alignment. Awarding NCAA titles the June before the season starts is risky business.

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58 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Including us, right? :silly:

They'll have to go through us if they want to repeat as NCHC and NCAA champions. We will have a much better team next year and will be back in contention for both titles. But I guess we'll have to just wait and see what happens.

Yeah, we'll be good too.  I don't think we'll pack the punch that they will but we should be a very good team.  

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1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

And that was an accurate description of our program at the time. We were "the king of the mountain". Denver really didn't have to go through us, we were in different regions and we didn't make the Frozen Four last year. But as defending champions, everyone wants a piece of your hide and Denver will have to run that gauntlet next season. You will get everyone's A game every night, every weekend. While having most of your top players back will make that easier, it will be a grind for them. Meanwhile, UND won't have that pressure, especially with the young guys we will count on for scoring next year.

And finally, several years ago, Denver had a team that the Denver Post was anointing the NCAA title, saying "the stars are aligned". Well, something called RIT knocked those stars out of alignment. Awarding NCAA titles the June before the season starts is risky business.

It's too early to declare anyone the champion yet. Denver is a team I'd expect to see in the picture at the end of the year. (As it stands currently)

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All I will say is how many people had Denver as the team to beat going into last year?  I recall people getting defensive last year when some of us said UND had a lot of players to replace, especially at defense.  If Denver gets all of their players back, they definitely will be favorites, but sometimes they could play like they are favorites and if they aren't all in when it comes to the sacrifices necessary to do all the little things, that could become a problem.  I remember when Hakstol sat down with players that were coming back and made sure they were all in for the program.  Not saying that it will happen, but if you are a high end talent like Borgstrom and have a hefty salary awaiting you, are you always going to be ready to take a big hit to make a play?  There are some players that the compete level is what separates them, while others rely on great talent.  Borgstrom and the other Pioneers could be both, in which case they could be incredibly difficult to beat.  St. Cloud is another team that will be very good next year.

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3 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

And that was an accurate description of our program at the time. We were "the king of the mountain". Denver really didn't have to go through us, we were in different regions and we didn't make the Frozen Four last year. But as defending champions, everyone wants a piece of your hide and Denver will have to run that gauntlet next season. You will get everyone's A game every night, every weekend. While having most of your top players back will make that easier, it will be a grind for them. Meanwhile, UND won't have that pressure, especially with the young guys we will count on for scoring next year.

And finally, several years ago, Denver had a team that the Denver Post was anointing the NCAA title, saying "the stars are aligned". Well, something called RIT knocked those stars out of alignment. Awarding NCAA titles the June before the season starts is risky business.

Correct. Wait until October like Minnesota does.

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2 hours ago, tnt said:

All I will say is how many people had Denver as the team to beat going into last year?  I recall people getting defensive last year when some of us said UND had a lot of players to replace, especially at defense.  If Denver gets all of their players back, they definitely will be favorites, but sometimes they could play like they are favorites and if they aren't all in when it comes to the sacrifices necessary to do all the little things, that could become a problem.  I remember when Hakstol sat down with players that were coming back and made sure they were all in for the program.  Not saying that it will happen, but if you are a high end talent like Borgstrom and have a hefty salary awaiting you, are you always going to be ready to take a big hit to make a play?  There are some players that the compete level is what separates them, while others rely on great talent.  Borgstrom and the other Pioneers could be both, in which case they could be incredibly difficult to beat.  St. Cloud is another team that will be very good next year.

I had Denver as the team to beat last year and as of now I would have them as the team to beat for the upcoming season....the nice thing is that in college hockey the team to beat does in fact get beat.

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8 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Defensive? I guess I don't want to go back to playing second fiddle to someone else, like we did to Boston College for years. The mere thought of playing second-fiddle to Denver for several years just turns my stomach. :angry:

And no, I am not being objective and I don't have to be. This is SiouxSports.com, not Pioneer Central. :p

I, too, hate being second fiddle - I want us to be the dominate program of this era.  That shouldn't be too much to ask.

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2 hours ago, Irish said:

I, too, hate being second fiddle - I want us to be the dominate program of this era.  That shouldn't be too much to ask.

dominant.  For example, I'll use the two words in a sentence to show how they differ:

I expect North Dakota to dominate the NCHC this season and become the dominant team in the nation.

:lol: 

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1 hour ago, MafiaMan said:

dominant.  For example, I'll use the two words in a sentence to show how they differ:

I expect North Dakota to dominate the NCHC this season and become the dominant team in the nation.

:lol: 

I'm blaming spell check

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Kiefer Bellows leaving BU...sounds like he's headed to Portland in the WHL

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13 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

Kiefer Bellows leaving BU...sounds like he's headed to Portland in the WHL

That's been known for a week or two, he signed with Portland.

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Montgomery confirms he's staying at DU, and their chances of losing anyone early just decreased even more.

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On 6/3/2017 at 0:38 AM, yzerman19 said:

Kiefer Bellows leaving BU...sounds like he's headed to Portland in the WHL

 

On 6/3/2017 at 0:52 AM, cberkas said:

That's been known for a week or two, he signed with Portland.

Hey, cut yzerman19 some slack.  He just found out the Red Wings are shutting down Joe Louis Arena.  :lol:

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13 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

Hey, cut yzerman19 some slack.  He just found out the Red Wings are shutting down Joe Louis Arena.  :lol:

Our crack staff has found a recording of yzerman19's reaction to the JLA news. 

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21 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

wait a minute- did Steve Yzerman retire as a player? :D

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"STEVE YZERMAN RETIRED?"

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37 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

wait a minute- did Steve Yzerman retire as a player? :D

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Terry, Borgstrom, Jaillet, and Hammond all coming back for next season.  Gambrell is still undecided. 

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/12/du-pioneers-hockey-recruits/

Denver will be very good next season, but people should remember that they lost a Hobey Baker winner along with a large group of Seniors.  DU will be in the mix come March, but I'm not going to give them the title just yet. 

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15 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

While Denver is the sexy choice as October national champion, I think the Pioneers are going to have their hands full trying to unseat 31-time champ Minnesota.

Lmao :lol:

 

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2 minutes ago, siouxforcefans said:

Report that Frederik Tiffels has left Western Michigan.

https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2017/6/22/15855220/frederik-tiffels-signs-with-pittsburgh-penguins

He had a cup of coffee with the Force before heading off to WMU.

I'll believe it given CapFriendly.com already has the details of his contract with PIT listed online. ;)

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/frederik-tiffels 

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