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15 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Not sure what your getting at. The school commits to the kid with hundreds of hours of coaching and life lessons and thousands of dollars towards education room and board and full cost of attendence. If the kid ends up being a bust then they move down the depth chart and usually aren't given a spot for fall camp. It's the harsh reality of college athletics.

But if a head coach wants to jump ship and go to another school, there are ZERO consequences for that person. Where is "the harsh reality of college athletics" for disloyal coaches? I think if a coach abandons a program, the players should have the opportunity to transfer to another school without penalty.

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7 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

But if a head coach wants to jump ship and go to another school, there are ZERO consequences for that person. Where is "the harsh reality of college athletics" for disloyal coaches? I think if a coach abandons a program, the players should have the opportunity to transfer to another school without penalty.

Yeah that wouldn't open a huge can of worms.

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1 minute ago, iluvdebbies said:

Yeah that wouldn't open a huge can of worms.

What "can of worms"? If a coach suddenly abandons a program, a program kids have committed to based in part on who the head coach is, why should the players be stuck with a situation they had ZERO responsibility in creating? Commitment should be a two-way street; otherwise, it is pure hypocrisy.

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Just now, fightingsioux4life said:

What "can of worms"? If a coach suddenly abandons a program, a program kids have committed to based in part on who the head coach is, why should the players be stuck with a situation they had ZERO responsibility in creating? Commitment should be a two-way street; otherwise, it is pure hypocrisy.

The coach leaves and takes his players with him.

 

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19 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

But if a head coach wants to jump ship and go to another school, there are ZERO consequences for that person. Where is "the harsh reality of college athletics" for disloyal coaches? I think if a coach abandons a program, the players should have the opportunity to transfer to another school without penalty.

Coaches get fired when they don't perform. Harsh reality.

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8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

What "can of worms"? If a coach suddenly abandons a program, a program kids have committed to based in part on who the head coach is, why should the players be stuck with a situation they had ZERO responsibility in creating? Commitment should be a two-way street; otherwise, it is pure hypocrisy.

How is it different than moving up the ladder in any other field?

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6 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

How is it different than moving up the ladder in any other field?

Because when players transfer, they are forced to sit out a year. When an employee leaves one company for another, they don't have to sit out a year. You can pretend those two things are the same, but they are not.

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3 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Because when players transfer, they are forced to sit out a year. When an employee leaves one company for another, they don't have to sit out a year. You can pretend those two things are the same, but they are not.

Not always the case.... J.J. doesn't have to sit this year, Clive played right away, Braden Hanson hit the field fight away for UND, and so did many other FBS drop downs. 

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3 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Because when players transfer, they are forced to sit out a year. When an employee leaves one company for another, they don't have to sit out a year. You can pretend those two things are the same, but they are not.

That's why they always say a player should commit to a university, not a coach.

I was making the comparison of coaches and executives. It's pretty similar.

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2 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:

Not always the case.... J.J. doesn't have to sit this year, Clive played right away, Braden Hanson hit the field fight away for UND, and so did many other FBS drop downs. 

JJ and Braden Hanson dropped down a division (FBS to FCS), so they were immediately eligible. But if you are going from FBS to FBS, then you have to sit out.

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2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

JJ and Braden Hanson dropped down a division (FBS to FCS), so they were immediately eligible. But if you are going from FBS to FBS, then you have to sit out.

Oh really? Thanks, Sherlock. :glare:  Just implying your example isn't apples to apples. 

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18 hours ago, iluvdebbies said:

Yeah that wouldn't open a huge can of worms.

So programs that are on the upswing and have potential for a National title would be recruiting players behind the scenes to join them because that will really put them over the top.  The player wouldn't have to wait, so no problem going for a National Championship right away. 

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6 minutes ago, tnt said:

So programs that are on the upswing and have potential for a National title would be recruiting players behind the scenes to join them because that will really put them over the top.  The player wouldn't have to wait, so no problem going for a National Championship right away. 

#canofworms

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On 1/4/2017 at 1:43 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

But if a head coach wants to jump ship and go to another school, there are ZERO consequences for that person. Where is "the harsh reality of college athletics" for disloyal coaches? I think if a coach abandons a program, the players should have the opportunity to transfer to another school without penalty.

In some situations there are large buyouts for a coach to leave early. Look at Bohl in Wyo. With the bohla 6.5 million dollar buyout, he is probably not a candidate for the Goofs.

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