Cratter Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 I recently got off cigarettes after I noticed a spot on my forearm that felt constantly sunburnt. I played Dr. Google and read it could be related to Carbon Monoxide poisoning, and since cigs contain CO I figured it's about time to quit. I had tried those cigalikes (like Blu) for a bit when they first came out a few years ago but they weren't very satisfying (not cheap, didn't last long: juice and batteries, poor throat hit) so I went back to cigarettes, but noticing the health hazard this time being more determined than ever, I did some research and bought a Kanger Subvod Starter Kit....and a week later quit tobacco all together (finding a juice I enjoyed: sweet tarts, bubble gum rather than "tobacco flavor" really helped too). After doing research, Ive learned Vaping has become a victim of its own success. So many people have made the switch that the industry has ballooned to about $10 Billion with Vape Stores and "Vape Festivals" popping up throughout the country. This has caught the attention of the FDA and as of Monday no new Vape Products or Eliquid can not be introduced to market (without approval by the FDA which experts estimate at $1,000,000 per product) and all current products have two years to get that same approval (it's estimated the majority of the products will vanish as most are small businesses, not "big tobacco", and don't have that kind of money). The "sunburn" spot on my forearm has been gone since I made the switch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 37 minutes ago, Cratter said: I recently got off cigarettes after I noticed a spot on my forearm that felt constantly sunburnt. I played Dr. Google and read it could be related to Carbon Monoxide poisoning, and since cigs contain CO I figured it's about time to quit. I had tried those cigalikes (like Blu) for a bit when they first came out but they weren't very satisfying (not cheap, didn't last long: juice and batteries, poor throat hit)...so more determined than ever, I did some research and bought a Kanger Subvod Starter Kit....and a week later haven't had a cigarette since (finding a juice I enjoyed: sweet tarts, bubble gum rather than "tobacco flavor" really helped too). After doing research, Ive learned Vaping has become a victim of its own success. So many people have made the switch that the industry has ballooned to about $10 Billion with Vape Stores and "Vape Festivals" popping up throughout the country. This has caught the attention of the FDA and as of Monday no new Vape Products or Eliquid can not be introduced to market (without approval by the FDA which is about $1,000,000 per product) and all current products have two years to get that same approval (it's estimated the majority of the products will vanish as most are small businesses, not "big tobacco", and don't have that kind of money). The "sunburn" spot on my forearm has been gone since I made the switch. Keep fighting the good fight! I find it strange the govt is trying to regulate vapping when they let the food supplement industry run wild with the FDA turning a blind eye. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 Saw this on KVLY News right now: Tap Water Causes Cancer ......nothing is "100%" safe if one can has to worry about the suppose to be safest substance on the planet. It's Much Safer to Vape New FDA Vaping Regulations Will Harm Public Health Mayo Clinic: Ecigs Mitigate Risks of Smoking Before and After Operations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 On August 10, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Cratter said: I recently got off cigarettes after I noticed a spot on my forearm that felt constantly sunburnt. I played Dr. Google and read it could be related to Carbon Monoxide poisoning, and since cigs contain CO I figured it's about time to quit. I had tried those cigalikes (like Blu) for a bit when they first came out a few years ago but they weren't very satisfying (not cheap, didn't last long: juice and batteries, poor throat hit) so I went back to cigarettes, but noticing the health hazard this time being more determined than ever, I did some research and bought a Kanger Subvod Starter Kit....and a week later quit tobacco all together (finding a juice I enjoyed: sweet tarts, bubble gum rather than "tobacco flavor" really helped too). After doing research, Ive learned Vaping has become a victim of its own success. So many people have made the switch that the industry has ballooned to about $10 Billion with Vape Stores and "Vape Festivals" popping up throughout the country. This has caught the attention of the FDA and as of Monday no new Vape Products or Eliquid can not be introduced to market (without approval by the FDA which experts estimate at $1,000,000 per product) and all current products have two years to get that same approval (it's estimated the majority of the products will vanish as most are small businesses, not "big tobacco", and don't have that kind of money). The "sunburn" spot on my forearm has been gone since I made the switch. Head over to Vapor Stars. Locally owned by good guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 The best route to go is quite tobacco altogether and remind yourself that you are literally too much of a fool to live if you start up again. I know from personal experence that after five days it gets easier. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 On 8/10/2016 at 5:17 PM, Cratter said: I recently got off cigarettes after I noticed a spot on my forearm that felt constantly sunburnt. I played Dr. Google and read it could be related to Carbon Monoxide poisoning, and since cigs contain CO I figured it's about time to quit. I had tried those cigalikes (like Blu) for a bit when they first came out a few years ago but they weren't very satisfying (not cheap, didn't last long: juice and batteries, poor throat hit) so I went back to cigarettes, but noticing the health hazard this time being more determined than ever, I did some research and bought a Kanger Subvod Starter Kit....and a week later quit tobacco all together (finding a juice I enjoyed: sweet tarts, bubble gum rather than "tobacco flavor" really helped too). After doing research, Ive learned Vaping has become a victim of its own success. So many people have made the switch that the industry has ballooned to about $10 Billion with Vape Stores and "Vape Festivals" popping up throughout the country. This has caught the attention of the FDA and as of Monday no new Vape Products or Eliquid can not be introduced to market (without approval by the FDA which experts estimate at $1,000,000 per product) and all current products have two years to get that same approval (it's estimated the majority of the products will vanish as most are small businesses, not "big tobacco", and don't have that kind of money). The "sunburn" spot on my forearm has been gone since I made the switch. Dope is for dopes, Cratter! Quit that stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 22 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Dope is for dopes, Cratter! Quit that stuff! Not that kind of vape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 1 hour ago, TBR said: The best route to go is quite tobacco altogether and remind yourself that you are literally too much of a fool to live if you start up again. I know from personal experence that after five days it gets easier. . I have quit tobacco... Vaping is the easiest way to do it. (Real world evidence not FDA)....people eventually drop the amount of nicotine in the juice til they are vaping zero nicotine and then eventually quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 14 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Head over to Vapor Stars. Locally owned by good guys. Absolutely. One of my old Fraternity brothers and they have a lot of great stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangolou Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 On 8/10/2016 at 5:17 PM, Cratter said: recently got off cigarettes after I noticed a spot on my forearm that felt constantly sunburnt. I played Dr. Google and read it could be related to Carbon Monoxide poisoning, and since cigs contain CO I figured it's about time to quit. I had tried those cigalikes (like Blu) for a bit when they first came out a few years ago but they weren't very satisfying (not cheap, didn't last long: juice and batteries, poor throat hit) so I went back to cigarettes, but noticing the health hazard this time being more determined than ever, I did some research and bought a Kanger Subvod Starter Kit....and a week later quit tobacco all together (finding a juice I enjoyed: sweet tarts, bubble gum rather than "tobacco flavor" really helped too). After doing research, Ive learned Vaping has become a victim of its own success. So many people have made the switch that the industry has ballooned to about $10 Billion with Vape Stores and "Vape Festivals" popping up throughout the country. This has caught the attention of the FDA and as of Monday no new Vape Products or Eliquid can not be introduced to market (without approval by the FDA which experts estimate at $1,000,000 per product) and all current products have two years to get that same approval (it's estimated the majority of the products will vanish as most are small businesses, not "big tobacco", and don't have that kind of money). The "sunburn" spot on my forearm has been gone Just quit. I quit Copenhagen 12 years ago. The first 9 years were the hardest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I quit chewing 3 months ago & got sicker than a goofer I still miss it but have not drank yet that's how I got hooked on nicotine - cigars when I drank then skoal bandits then camel snus You just have to be stubborn & it helps if ur with someone who tells u not to even think about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 But it sure is a pleasureable drug But it has gotten to expensive & will only get more expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 Was surprised to see GF has three vape shops. Found out my buddy is trying to quit tobacco using an ecig also. Gave him a bunch of flavors I had laying around, as one is more likely to quit when they find a flavor they enjoy. Any who, for anyone interested the Right to Vape Tour will be in Fargo today at 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 It'll be interesting to see if the tobacco* sales tax increase will pass in North Dakota. *also taxes "ejuice." If it passes could see more people switching to vaping. As a pack a day smoker would be saving about $175 on average every month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Cigarettes are Exhibit A as to why the legality of substances has just about everything to do with money/politics and virtually nothing to do with public health and societal well being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 21 minutes ago, TBR said: Cigarettes are Exhibit A as to why the legality of substances has just about everything to do with money/politics and virtually nothing to do with public health and societal well being. One is reminded of how NY tried (or did) ban "large" drinks. (One can just buy two...costing the consumer more money). Sugar/Soft Drinks is definately on the radar as the next money grab for governments. Which reminds one of this famous quote: First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I miss chewing terrible I was smoking a vape cigar (got it at Stamart) it wasn't bad & my wife could not smell it - it is no fun smoking a cigar in the garage in winter - I found it recently under my bed & did hit it a couple times - I want to stay QUIT but Damn it's pleasureable - it ran out of juice & I have not tried to find another - all it would take is a couple drinks - which I'm not supposed to have either I'm praying Medical MJ happens I will not be able to resist 3 herniated discs in neck - opioids for pain also gabapentin - my son wants me to come to Colo.& try it for pain & to relax & be happy again - waiting for the vote in ND - I doubt it will happen - if not I may go try it & maybe stay Being diabetic also - I can no longer drink - getting old can suck - opioids suck but better than severe pain but also a No No with drinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 http://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/marijuana-legalization-survey.html/ Don't be in this demographic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 The prohibition of hemp, once promoted as an economic base by B Franklin, has an interesting history. It has a lot to do with the promotion of fossil fuels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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