darell1976 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11320309/majority-power-five-coaches-want-power-five-only-schedules Of the 65 Power Five coaches from the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC and Notre Dame, 46 percent (30 coaches) favored playing exclusively Power Five opponents while 35 percent (23 coaches) were opposed. About 18.5 percent (12 coaches) were undecided. The Pac-12, Big 12 and SEC coaches favored playing all Power Five opponents, while the ACC coaches were against it by a 6-4 margin with four coaches undecided. Big Ten coaches were divided: Six each were for and against it, with two undecided. Alabama coach Nick Saban said "fans want" Power Five teams playing exclusively Power Five opponents. Wisconsin's Gary Andersen, Missouri's Gary Pinkel and Iowa's Kirk Ferentz also were against it. Andersen, the former Utah State coach, and Pinkel, formerly at Toledo, wondered how the smaller schools could survive without playing the Power Five schools. Some smaller schools receive more than $1 million to play at a Power Five opponent. "Where do teams like Utah State go to get a big game?" Andersen said. Ferentz even predicted the Big Ten would play 10 conference games "in the near future." The league currently has eight league games but is moving to nine in 2016 and will eventually eliminate games against FCS teams. LSU's Les Miles, one of seven SEC coaches who were in favor, believes that "we're headed that way" to Power Five-only schedules. Mississippi State's Dan Mullen, who also favored it, said that if the schools played only Power Five opponents, they would need more scholarship players and expanded eligibility. Even though Notre Dame has never played an FCS team and plays almost exclusively Power Five opponents already, Irish coach Brian Kelly said he would be against it if it meant no longer playing Navy. Kelly said removing Navy from Notre Dame's schedule would be "a deal-breaker." Even with teams playing tougher schedules, Kelly said he doesn't favor teams with losing records playing in bowls. North Carolina's Larry Fedora was against the idea because he said the Group of Five league teams "can't survive without us. It would not be good for college football." Doesn't look good for us FCS teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 http://espn.go.com/c...-only-schedules Doesn't look good for us FCS teams. You could see this coming the day the College Football Playoff was implemented. Another red flag that this was going to happen was when Chris Petersen took the Washington Husky's job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 So, one has to wonder if there's going to be three division I football division's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 So, one has to wonder if there's going to be three division I football division's? The ideal move would be what Fullerton wants a move up of conferences (maybe not all members but some) in the FCS to merge with the G5 conferences. P5, G5/upper FCS, lower FCS, DII, DIII. Of course the G5 schools would freak on that thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The ideal move would be what Fullerton wants a move up of conferences (maybe not all members but some) in the FCS to merge with the G5 conferences. P5, G5/upper FCS, lower FCS, DII, DIII. Of course the G5 schools would freak on that thought. And, of course, you think UND belongs in that G5/upper FCS schools, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 And, of course, you think UND belongs in that G5/upper FCS schools, right? Based on play the last few years no. Expectation-wise though I don't see it as a far fetched opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 And, of course, you think UND belongs in that G5/upper FCS schools, right? With the current investment in facilities, no reason to go back to the third highest division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 And, of course, you think UND belongs in that G5/upper FCS schools, right? As much as Idaho does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Asking coaches for their opinion is beyond ridiculous. It's like asking your barber how to spend your money. Most coaches are clueless, as they have never had to exist in the adult life with a real world wage. Ask AD's, who have to balance budgets and schedule, and you'll get a totally different response. If P5s play each other all the time, there would be no seventh home games. Some P5 ADs try to make 8 home games (or 7 home and 1 neutral). That would be impossible without scheduling G5s, unless Wake Forest, Duke, Washington St, Kansas, Indiana, and Vanderbilt will play all their games on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 With the current investment in facilities, no reason to go back to the third highest division. With all due respect, If UND football is just a hair below the level of a P5, then NDSU must currently be in talks with Jim Delaney about becoming the next member of the Big 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 With all due respect, If UND football is just a hair below the level of a P5, then NDSU must currently be in talks with Jim Delaney about becoming the next member of the Big 10. No one said a hair below, they would be in the upper FCS group like half of the Big Sky and MVFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 No one said a hair below, they would be in the upper FCS group like half of the Big Sky and MVFC. UND is in the lower half of the Big Sky right now, make that claim when UND puts together some winning seasons in D1 first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 No one said a hair below, they would be in the upper FCS group like half of the Big Sky and MVFC. You consider North Dakota football to be in the upper FCS group...based on WHAT, can I ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 You consider North Dakota football to be in the upper FCS group...based on WHAT, can I ask? Facilities, scholarships (can't tell me ISU, and Weber fully funds football) plus we are starting only our 3rd year in the BSC with almost the exact record NDSU had going into their 3rd year. You think UND would stay in the FCS while most of the BSC moved up? Bubba will turn this team around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 With all due respect, If UND football is just a hair below the level of a P5, then NDSU must currently be in talks with Jim Delaney about becoming the next member of the Big 10. Only fans believe that conference affiliation has anything to do with performance in games. Administrators and college presidents look at a lot of other factors in building conferences. And you are the only one that said anything about UND being just a hair below the level of a P5. The size of that hair is closer to the Grand Canyon. UND as an institution, and the UND athletic department more closely resemble many schools in the G5 conferences than either the majority of schools in the P5 conferences or the FCS conferences. If there is a reconfiguration of conferences and levels, and if UND is interested, UND will be part of the G5/Upper FCS group. NDSU would also fit in that category, and not because of their recent success on the football field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 You consider North Dakota football to be in the upper FCS group...based on WHAT, can I ask? Home attendance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Home attendance? Then we are on par with the MAC and Idaho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 With all due respect, If UND football is just a hair below the level of a P5, then NDSU must currently be in talks with Jim Delaney about becoming the next member of the Big 10. In the mind of Suzy Chapstick, their resident class 3 felon, they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Then we are on par with the MAC and Idaho. The obsession with Idaho continues...tell me, how did their little experiment with FBS go? How's that train wreck UMass doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 The obsession with Idaho continues...tell me, how did their little experiment with FBS go? How's that train wreck UMass doing? About the same as other g5 teams that was FCS not to long ago, not everyone will be a Boise St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 When the P5 start playing an insular schedule, there'll only be about 60 FBS schools left. Those won't have the resources of the P5 (obviously) and will need more opponents that are more regional (for travel and attendance). Take the P5 out of FBS and what's left? Stuff ranging from Boise State and BYU down to MAC and Sun Belt team down through recent move-ups Appalachian State and Georgia Southern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Asking coaches for their opinion is beyond ridiculous. It's like asking your barber how to spend your money. Most coaches are clueless, as they have never had to exist in the adult life with a real world wage. Ask AD's, who have to balance budgets and schedule, and you'll get a totally different response. If P5s play each other all the time, there would be no seventh home games. Some P5 ADs try to make 8 home games (or 7 home and 1 neutral). That would be impossible without scheduling G5s, unless Wake Forest, Duke, Washington St, Kansas, Indiana, and Vanderbilt will play all their games on the road. .... Coaches have never had a real life wage? I guess they all go from college kids to multi million dollar earning coaches overnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 College football has always been a land of "haves and have nots", especially since TV money has been pouring into the mix. This move just formalizes the structure, and saves the NC$$ the embarrassment of losing the B5 entirely. That said, the coming "arms race" for players, facilities, money, etc. will probably force some schools to drop programs, conferences, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 College football has always been a land of "haves and have nots", especially since TV money has been pouring into the mix. This move just formalizes the structure, and saves the NC$$ the embarrassment of losing the B5 entirely. That said, the coming "arms race" for players, facilities, money, etc. will probably force some schools to drop programs, conferences, etc. I'm curious to see what the trickle down effect will be for college hockey...the B1G Mistake teams will definitely have access to more revenue than the other West/Midwest teams because of their Tv contract...how much of that will go to enhancing their hockey programs remains to be seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 With all due respect, If UND football is just a hair below the level of a P5, then NDSU must currently be in talks with Jim Delaney about becoming the next member of the Big 10. By this logic NDSU should not have moved up to FCS when they did. They were an average DII program and the move to FCS gave them a shot in the arm to gain a recruiting advantage at a time they had none based on field performance and results and injecting some excitement back in the fanbase. Their coaching and players helped build on that the next few years. Positioning ourselves to move up is about not repeating history and lowering the perception of our programs by not being ready for change the last time around. Other than additional scholorships, the recruiting footprint or travel budget do not change. It is in classification only and fan perception only. The 2nd one being the biggest deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.