Vegas_Sioux Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 United Airlines will be ending service in grand forks effective 12/3/13. Dec 3rd will be the last day of operations http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/272920/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Very unfortunate they won't have service for the du series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 GF seems destined to take a step back for nearly every step forward. This is a huge blow, and it clearly solidifies the Delta 'must-fly-east-to-go-south-or-west' monopoly, er, stranglehold. Just one more reason to drive to Fargo to fly (American to Chicago and DFW; Frontier to Denver; Delta to SLC). At least we can soon munch on Timbits while en route. Couldn't United at least have maintained token service on a less than daily basis, or is GF literally not worth the trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoHawks! Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Why fly GF to Denver when I can fly Fargo to Denver for 150-200 less per ticket? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 sure glad we spent all that tax money on the gf airport for this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 GF seems destined to take a step back for nearly every step forward. This is a huge blow, and it clearly solidifies the Delta 'must-fly-east-to-go-south-or-west' monopoly, er, stranglehold. Just one more reason to drive to Fargo to fly (American to Chicago and DFW; Frontier to Denver; Delta to SLC). At least we can soon munch on Timbits while en route. Couldn't United at least have maintained token service on a less than daily basis, or is GF literally not worth the trouble? for the most part the only time the planes were at 50% or greater capacity was when a big sky team came to grand forks (thats only 25 seats) most of the grand forks fliers are upper tier delta medallions so they get all the perks free bags change a ticket on a whim with delta. they can't do that with united so they aren't going to fly united, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Why fly GF to Denver when I can fly Fargo to Denver for 150-200 less per ticket? I just booked a flight on United from GFK to San Fransisco and it was $80 per person less than Fargo.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Why fly GF to Denver when I can fly Fargo to Denver for 150-200 less per ticket? I went to Vegas about 7 years ago and we got a heck of a deal to fly UNITED from Fargo - Denver - Vegas... It was a lot cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsowe Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Bigger planes are coming to GFK maybe and Delta makes no money in Grand Forks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 United failed in GFK so they want to move to Devils Lake http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/279603/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 United failed in GFK so they want to move to Devils Lake http://www.grandfork...icle/id/279603/ I'm not in the airline industry, so can someone explain that to me? They are going to serve Devils Lake with the same size airplane as they did Grand Forks. If they were losing money in GF, why didn't they try cutting back to one flight per day or only coming every other day of the week or something like that? I flew on United out of GFK about 3 weeks ago. Leaving GF every seat on the 50 passenger plane was full. On the return flight there were 14 people. Is there any chance of another west bound connection coming to GFK now, like Frontier maybe? Or is it just a dead duck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I'm not in the airline industry, so can someone explain that to me? They are going to serve Devils Lake with the same size airplane as they did Grand Forks. If they were losing money in GF, why didn't they try cutting back to one flight per day or only coming every other day of the week or something like that? I flew on United out of GFK about 3 weeks ago. Leaving GF every seat on the 50 passenger plane was full. On the return flight there were 14 people. Is there any chance of another west bound connection coming to GFK now, like Frontier maybe? Or is it just a dead duck? Devils Lake is closer to the oil boom than Grand Forks so of course it makes sense. (Just kidding, I have nothing.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I'm not in the airline industry, so can someone explain that to me? They are going to serve Devils Lake with the same size airplane as they did Grand Forks. If they were losing money in GF, why didn't they try cutting back to one flight per day or only coming every other day of the week or something like that? I flew on United out of GFK about 3 weeks ago. Leaving GF every seat on the 50 passenger plane was full. On the return flight there were 14 people. Is there any chance of another west bound connection coming to GFK now, like Frontier maybe? Or is it just a dead duck? Because flying to Devils Lake and Jamestown will get them a bunch of tax dollars in subsidizes so that it would be a hard to lose money. Serving a city with only one arrival and departure does not work. People want options of flight times. For a town of Devils Lake's size it would work though. Does anyone remember how much GF gave United to provide service? Vegas_Sioux was right on the mark for why people fly Delta. As for the flying east to go west thing that is very common all over the country. Flying to Denver to go west vs. flying to Minneapolis to go west time wise really makes no difference. As for Frontier they would want money and provide a limited service, think Allegiant on steroids. Frontier really nickles and dimes people to death. When people book tickets on Frontier through a third party website they overlook bag fees. What happens is that people that book tickets through these sites do not get a free carry-on. They find out at the gate that the carry-on is now going to cost them a $100 dollars. If checked in at the ticket counter when the checked in it is like $20. They are a sleazy operation. Frontier has not been the same since Republic took them over and the CEO use to run Spirit another sleazy airline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 roughly 1 million between waived landing fees, guaranteed revenue and ad campaigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 roughly 1 million between waived landing fees, guaranteed revenue and ad campaigns. Thank you Vegas_Sioux for that. Even then there was not enough business for United to stay around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Makes sense. About two years ago I flew United from Denver to GF and I was one of three on a jet that seated 50. Now I fly Frontier into Minot or Fargo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/281569/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 http://www.grandfork...icle/id/281569/ If there ever was a waste of tax dollars it would be this. The conservatives on this board should be against this 1000000000%. Vegas_Sioux a question for you. Do you think that SkyWest is losing some of their flights because of their 200's and need to find some use for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yes, as delta is pulling the 200s Skywest needs a new home for them until their refleet is finished Yes DVL with eas in a crj is ridiculous but with out the 30 passenger turbo props anymore it's about the best you can do. DVL did have good loads on delta but they dropped the Saab and that's what started this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yes, as delta is pulling the 200s Skywest needs a new home for them until their refleet is finished Yes DVL with eas in a crj is ridiculous but with out the 30 passenger turbo props anymore it's about the best you can do. DVL did have good loads on delta but they dropped the Saab and that's what started this mess. Thanks Vegas. I thought I had read something about 200's being cut. The numbers were not that good on the Saabs. I have the boarding figures for many years in a file and they were never very good. They were not filling the Saabs and that was bewteen Jamestown and Devils Lake. I am not a fan of the EAS. It is a program that should have went away years ago. In the begining it was a good idea but it was suppose to be short lived, I researched it quite a bit. Do you like to play with Flightaware.com like I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Not really I will on occasion look at some of my flights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 So, I know this is a really old thread. As I said, I know next to nothing about how airlines and airports work, and I only fly once or twice a year. Right now I'm planning a flight to SFO for this fall. How is it that Bismarck, Minot, and even Dickinson for heaven's sake can support more than one airline but GFK cannot? Every article I read seems to indicate that GFK has more boardings than any of those three. I would really prefer to connect in Denver rather than MPLS and avoid the stupid one hour flight to the cities. I live about the same distance from GFK as I do from Hector so it is really no skin off my back either way, I'm just a Grand Forks guy that would prefer to support GFK if possible. But it wouldn't make much sense the way things are looking. I know it doesn't really matter where I change planes, it just breaks up the trip a little nicer to change in Denver for this trip especially with young kids in tow. I just don't see how United (or any other second airline) can profit in Dickinson but not GF. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Bakken. Oil. United goes to Denver then into Texas (oil companies). That's the answer for Bismarck, Minot, and Dickinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 So did Minot and Dickinson not have two airlines prior to the oil boom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I'm pretty upset Frontier isn't flying into Fargo anymore. No more $180 roundtrip flights from Denver to Fargo. I have to either pony up $400 or fly into Bismarck or the Cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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