UNDBIZ Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I love how folks proudly call themselves 'liberal' and then claim to be anti-PC. Take a good look at your fellow 'proud' liberals like Nancy Pelosi, Barak Obama, Bryant Gumbel, Bob Costas, etc...in fact, please find me a good liberal political figure who has said anything about sticking up for history and nicknames...So-called middle-of-the-roaders like Dorgan, Conrad, and Heirkamp? Good luck! People have different views, just because they consider themselves liberal and agree with those politicians on some/most issues, doesn't mean they agree with them on all issues. Enough of the politics now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodcon Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Looks like AIM and the ACLU are stepping it up a notch... http://sports.yahoo....12320--nfl.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Stole this from http://msn.foxsports...xt-week-102613/ Funny stuff, regardless of who you vote against! TheRealHipjust now The National Football League, Washington Redskins are changing their name because Of the shame, Humiliation, contempt, and discrimination associated with their name. From now on they will be known simply as the Redskins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 That is no different from folks who proudly call themselves conservative and then claim to be against racism. No matter which side you're on, you don't neccessarily always go along with the over the top extremists that exist within the group that you generally side with. Excuse me... Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. He was a conservative and the first Republican president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Excuse me... Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. He was a conservative and the first Republican president. Pure tea-party revisionist history, dakota, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 since you are invoking wiki, here are Lincoln's own words: Lincoln and his party were called radical and destructive, but he counted himself among the earliest defenders of conservative principles, which was in essence a defense of time-honored, traditional values. As Lincoln said: But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 You're deflecting from the main point, which is that not all liberals are PC and not all conservatives are racist. to that I definitely agree, Dave and I also like Sammy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 A somewhat interesting article on FSU's use of the Seminole moniker. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/24/sports/ncaafootball/amid-rising-discord-over-indian-images-florida-state-has-harmony.html?src=recg&pagewanted=all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 A somewhat interesting article on FSU's use of the Seminole moniker. http://www.nytimes.c...&pagewanted=all You gotta love it!!!!!! FSU picked Seminoles over Crackers! I nominate Crackers for UND's new nickname. North Dakota Crackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Watching ESPN Gameday this morning. Saw a person in the background holding a sign that said "scalp UM". And we are the hostile and abusive ones!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senor_sieve Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Watching ESPN Gameday this morning. Saw a person in the background holding a sign that said "scalp UM". And we are the hostile and abusive ones!!! their re$pective tribe i$ OK with Florida $tate Univer$ity u$ing their likene$$. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CMSioux Posted January 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2014 Tough to accept the hypocracy associated with the NCAA and Florida State on display during the college football national championship game - the constant war chant and hand chopping, the crowd shots of students with indian headbands on - all things that UND never did in the last 40 years and would have been incredibly criticized for if they had. Shouldn't matter if a tribe gives permission - either using a Native American nickname/icon/mascot is racist or it isn't. Yes, I'm moving on, but no I don't have to accept the hypocracy. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Tough to accept the hypocricy associated with the NCAA and Florida State on display during the college football national championship game - the constant war chant and hand chopping, the crowd shots of students with indian headbands on - all things that UND never did in the last 40 years and would have been incredibly criticized for if they had. Shouldn't matter if a tribe gives permission - either using a Native American nickname/icon/mascot is racist or it isn't. I couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 This has the potential to be a big deal: Agency rejects trademark of ‘Redskins Hog Rinds,’ calling term ‘derogatory’ An application to register the trademark “Redskins Hog Rinds” with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office was refused by an examining attorney on the basis that it contained “a derogatory slang term,” according to a letter from the agency. If the PTO similarly finds that Redskins is a derogatory slang term in a football team's name (and why would its finding differ there vs. pork rinds?), the Washington Redskins could lose their trademark. That could open the floodgates to unapproved Redskins merchandise, and thus the revenue normally associated with licensing fees. Given that Snyder seems to care a fair bit about money, that could lead to an interesting dilemma as to what's costing him more -- having a team name that he can't license, or infuriating the loyal fans of his decidedly mediocre football team. Of course, a PTO finding against the football team's trademark would bring a lot more publicity and political pressure than the one for pork rinds, so one could imagine some higher up intervening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 If the PTO similarly finds that Redskins is a derogatory slang term in a football team's name (and why would its finding differ there vs. pork rinds?), the Washington Redskins could lose their trademark. That could open the floodgates to unapproved Redskins merchandise, and thus the revenue normally associated with licensing fees. Eligibility for registration and enforceability as a trademark are separate things; unregistered marks can still be infringed under the federal Lanham Act. http://www.law.corne...rk_infringement Also, a determination by the PTO in one case is not binding with respect to other applications/registrations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey the cat Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Tough to accept the hypocracy associated with the NCAA and Florida State on display during the college football national championship game - the constant war chant and hand chopping, the crowd shots of students with indian headbands on - all things that UND never did in the last 40 years and would have been incredibly criticized for if they had. Shouldn't matter if a tribe gives permission - either using a Native American nickname/icon/mascot is racist or it isn't. Yes, I'm moving on, but no I don't have to accept the hypocracy. I even agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 "Veterans" often gets mentioned for a new name for the Redskins if they end up having to change it. What about the University of North Dakota Veterans? Anyone else think that has a nice ring to it? If we are going to have a name that honors people, couldn't think of a better group of people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 The Cleveland Indians have apparently relegated Chief Wahoo to secondary logo status and made the block C their primary logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/31/christian-college-in-wisconsin-drops-crusaders-nickname/ I have often wondered how long it would be before Holy Cross found its nickname in trouble. We're not quite there yet, but I have a feeling the issue is about to be raised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 As a Christian myself, I can understand not wanting to use the Crusader nickname. Frankly, I'm not sure that's anything I'd be proud of. Not sure going to war in the Holy Land is all that Christian of a thing to do. Not trying to get religious or political, but I think I can see a reason why a Christian school might say "ah, maybe let's go a different route". On the other hand do I care if Holy Cross uses that nickname? Not a bit. Couldn't care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 As a Christian myself, I can understand not wanting to use the Crusader nickname. Frankly, I'm not sure that's anything I'd be proud of. Not sure going to war in the Holy Land is all that Christian of a thing to do. Not trying to get religious or political, but I think I can see a reason why a Christian school might say "ah, maybe let's go a different route". On the other hand do I care if Holy Cross uses that nickname? Not a bit. Couldn't care less. What does the Gophers think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 http://www.upworthy.com/the-nfl-would-never-let-this-ad-air-on-the-super-bowl-so-were-gonna-show-you-it-its-important?c=ufb1 Ad the NFL wouldn't allow during the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 http://news.kron4.com/news/nfl-told-to-rename-redskins-or-risk-losing-tax-exempt-status/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Let em pay taxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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