zonadub Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: a pic of a revolving door would be more appropriate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSSD Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 3 hours ago, zonadub said: These guys look a little professional for the Summit League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 37 minutes ago, FSSD said: These guys look a little professional for the Summit League 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 6 hours ago, zonadub said: While President Kennedy (UND) is coming in, Chancellor Nasser Paydar (IUPUI) is leaving, and President Jack Thomas (W. Illinios) is in his car thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 There are some interesting message board polling out there. An Indiana St MVC fan polled NDSU, SDSU, and Oral Roberts if they want one of the two coming slots. NDSU and ORU fans voted overwhelming to leave, while SDSU fans voted overwhelming to stay, as they don't want to lose home court advantage in the SLT. Of course, the Horizon League is talking at least 12 too, but SDSU fans think the Summit is entirely safe because everyone is so happy with Sioux Falls. IPFW has its car ready and ORU will leave as soon as it's asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 9 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: a pic of a revolving door would be more appropriate. Yeah and you guys are the model of stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 10 hours ago, bison73 said: Yeah and you guys are the model of stability. "you guys"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 11 hours ago, bison73 said: Yeah and you guys are the model of stability. Good comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 15 hours ago, bison73 said: Yeah and you guys are the model of stability. Compared to the Summit as a whole? Absolutely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, zonadub said: Compared to the Summit as a whole? Absolutely! Spending only 5 years in your last conference and jumping to another to save money doesnt scream stability. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, bison73 said: Spending only 5 years in your last conference and jumping to another to save money doesnt scream stability. Just saying. How many members did the Summit lose and gain during that same time frame? Lost Oral Roberts IUPUI Oakland UMKC SUU Gained Oral Roberts Omaha Denver That excludes Centenary (lost) and USD (gained) which occurred in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gothmog Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Don't throw stones: UND's conference affiliation since 2008 (IIRC) IN: Great West Big Sky NCHC WAC (Affiliate) Summit (2018) MVFC (2019) OUT: NCC Great West WCHA WAC (Affiliate) Big Sky (2018) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Don't throw stones: UND's conference affiliation since 2008 (IIRC) IN: Great West Big Sky NCHC WAC (Affiliate) Summit (2018) MVFC (2019) OUT: NCC - D2 Great West- IMPLODED WCHA - IMPLODED WAC (Affiliate) Big Sky (2018) So we're leaving one legitimate conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Don't throw stones: UND's conference affiliation since 2008 (IIRC) IN: Great West Big Sky NCHC Big Ten (Affiliate) WAC (Affiliate) Summit (2018) MVFC (2019) OUT: NCC Great West WCHA WAC (Affiliate) Big Sky (2018) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Don't throw stones: UND's conference affiliation since 2008 (IIRC) IN: Great West Big Sky NCHC WAC (Affiliate) Summit (2018) MVFC (2019) OUT: NCC Great West WCHA WAC (Affiliate) Big Sky (2018) Nice comparison. Real smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: So we're leaving one legitimate conference. You're kinda missing that the NCC, Great West, and WCHA imploded at least partly because of UND's actions. You don't have clean hands. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 19 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said: Nice comparison. Real smart. You really don't think that it's a bit hypocritical to complain about others doing exactly what you've been doing? Pretty much every conference you've been a member of for the last ten years has been unstable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 29 minutes ago, Gothmog said: You're kinda missing that the NCC, Great West, and WCHA imploded at least partly because of UND's actions. You don't have clean hands. You mean because Minnesota and Wisconsin decided to leave the conference? If the shoe were on the other foot you would have done the exact same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Pretty much every conference you've been a member of for the last ten years has been unstable. Summit and MVFC included? The Great West was as stable as the San Andreas Fault from Day 1. The WAC was destabilized long before UND became an affiliate. The conference UND co-founded, the NCHC, is so rock solid it is able to turn down a Power 5 school trying to get in (Arizona State). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 An article out of Eastern Illinois that states the OVC better get more teams, as Murray St is likely gone to the MVC and Jax St and E Kentucky want FBS bad and could just declare FBS as Liberty has done. An OVC call for Western Illinois, which will become the eastern extreme of the Summit? http://jg-tc.com/sports/local/ovc-has-some-work-to-do/article_160593ae-2eed-5a42-a6af-466050246737.html An OVC could replenish with for it a powerful football program again with a derelict mbb one, matching EIU and traveling with SIU-E. Best of all for cash strapped W Ill, the OVC is a bus conference, no plane trips to the Dakotas or Denver, and a short bus ride trip to Evansville or Nashville for the OVC tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 20 hours ago, bison73 said: Yeah and you guys are the model of stability. Yes, we help stabilize the Summit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Gothmog said: You really don't think that it's a bit hypocritical to complain about others doing exactly what you've been doing? Pretty much every conference you've been a member of for the last ten years has been unstable. Who's complaining about the eastern schools looking to better their situation? The complaint is that we're joining an unstable revolving door conference. The Big Sky and NCHC are stable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I would hope that the Horizon can make their moves sooner rather than later because I would think the Summit would like to get another team in at the same time UND is going in for 2018-19. Lets say for the sake of argument that for whatever reason, IFPW decides to hang tight and stay in the Summit. Does that mean the likelihood that they just target old soulmate UMKC and call it good for now increase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 45 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: I would hope that the Horizon can make their moves sooner rather than later because I would think the Summit would like to get another team in at the same time UND is going in for 2018-19. Lets say for the sake of argument that for whatever reason, IFPW decides to hang tight and stay in the Summit. Does that mean the likelihood that they just target old soulmate UMKC and call it good for now increase? Don't think UMKC wants to associate with Dakota schools, which is why they left for the WAC. Conference affiliation with a bunch of Dakotas is looked at very negatively, as we don't have tv sets in numbers or great recruiting. UMKC doesn't see a need to broaden it's awaredness in the Dakotas. Hockey is an exception, which is why Denver stays in the near term. These are the moves coming up, ImHO. MVC takes Murray St and ORU. Horizon takes IPFW and Robert Morris. OVC takes W Illinois and S Indiana or Lindenwood from DII. Later, the Horizon takes Omaha and UMKC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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