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Conference Realignments - Take 2

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any news from tempe still?  asu gonna go another year as an indy?

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5 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

any news from tempe still?  asu gonna go another year as an indy?

There is a fan of theirs on USCHO that said he believes they are waiting for the arena to be finalized then a conference. He was thinking that after the meetings in Naples that ASU would join the WCHA. He said that he heard the WCHA wants ASU to pay travel costs for the members of the WCHA to come to Tempe. I still believe they end up in the NCHC. The rumor now is that Utah will add hockey now that they added lacrosse.

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On 6/16/2017 at 7:15 PM, cberkas said:

There is a fan of theirs on USCHO that said he believes they are waiting for the arena to be finalized then a conference. He was thinking that after the meetings in Naples that ASU would join the WCHA. He said that he heard the WCHA wants ASU to pay travel costs for the members of the WCHA to come to Tempe. I still believe they end up in the NCHC. The rumor now is that Utah will add hockey now that they added lacrosse.

What is the source?  A Utah poster said the same, that Utah would add hockey.

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An unidentified school has been offered a Horizon spot - know in two weeks if it will accept

Must have baseball - which eliminates IUPUI, Robert Morris

Likely IPFW - chance it is Grand Canyon and SIU-E.  The following story is wrong about IPFW splitting in half, as it will be renamed Purdue U-FW (PUFW).  There will be an IU-FW, but it will just be a small college of health sciences.

Would be surprised if SIU-E left the OVC, as their one champion sport got in the MAC as men's soccer affiliate, and the MAC has power teams like Akron and WVU in that sport.  SIU-E has an old barn for mbb, while IPFW will move into a new downtown arena in 2018 or 2019.  Illinois' government is near crippled now, so SIU-E spending on exit and entry fees wouldn't go down well.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2017/06/21/horizon-extends-invitation-unidentified-school/103076944/

As the Slummit Turns.  Needs to get rid of IUPUI and W Ill next and then would be the Summit

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If IPFW is a goner, someone with baseball needs to be added (No Col) or the future Summit needs to add football to stay alive for mbb autobid.

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31 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

What is the source?  A Utah poster said the same, that Utah would add hockey.

You'll have to ask the guy on USCHO what his source is.

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An Illinois St fan says Murray St will join the Horizon this year and IUPUI and IPFW next.  Not sure what Murray St is going to do with their football, presumably play in the OVC this year and MVFC next, so the Horizon will go to 12.  That would leave the Summit at 8, and if W Illinois moves to the OVC, the Summit will be down to seven.  Need to get EWU, the Montanas and Idaho in soon.

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Now, Tony Paul of the Detroit News says IUPUI is the school with a Horizon invite, not IPFW or GCU.  IUPUI is awaiting regent approval.

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But, IUPUI does not have baseball.  According to news reports last night the school had baseball.

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So the Horizon reportedly  make a move to add a school that doesn't have baseball...

Cue Vince Lombardi

If this does go down... well the Summit is about to get interesting

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2 hours ago, FSSD said:

But, IUPUI does not have baseball.  According to news reports last night the school had baseball.

Tony Paul reported that the school had baseball, and now says it doesn't.  The Horizon has six baseball teams now, so one more isn't needed right way.

IPFW and RMU could get the nods for the 11th and 12th spots for 2018-19, when both have new arenas.  IUPUI has to decide before July 1st, which is the NCAA deadline.  Paul is reporting that the Horizon AD'S now have two conference schedules, one with IUPUI.  Could mess with our volleyball schedule, as we play IUPUI and Green Bay in what a supposed non conference tournament for them.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2017/06/22/source-iupui-receives-horizon-league-invitation/103102686/

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Come on Douple, go get the Montana schools.  We can make the football work out later.  A league with the Montana and Dakota schools as the linchpin and Sioux Falls for the tourney. 

A person can dream, but somehow they might just setting with the UNC, UMKC options.... maybe NMSU.

Say no to GCU, I don't care how improve that basketball program is, although I am a big fan of the coach.  They can stay in the land of WACky toys.

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12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If IUPUI to Horizon is true, you have to figure IPFW is now reconsidering why it is in the Summit.

The total shift of the league is towards the Dakota teams, and away from the upper midwest. Since IUPUI joined in 2007, teams that have left was Valpo, Centenary, Southern Utah, Oakland and UMKC. Maybe more teams in our area will join the Summit (more of the NCC 2.0), and more of an exit from the outliners (IPFW, and ORU).

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When the MVC goes to 12 with Murray St and Milwaukee or UMKC or ORU, IPFW will be gone for sure.  IPFW probably wasn't picked first because IUPUI is an easy addition to the OVC.  The Horizon move to IUPUI first preserves IPFW for later.

The need for the Montanas, Idaho and EWU is becoming more evident by the day.

Imagine that ORU, W Ill, IPFW and maybe even Omaha are working the phones trying to get out of the Summit.

UND wouldn't move in unless there is a plan.

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4 hours ago, zonadub said:

hope you are right about this

The Big Sky requires one year notice for Olympic Sports for no exit fee, but two years for football.

Why we have a three year football notice is a mystery.

But consider if the Montanas, Idaho and EWU all decide to join the Summit when east of the Mississippi River schools are gone, and that may happen by next June.  Those schools would need two years notice for Football, matching UND's exit date.

Kennedy has it all planned out.  The IP's and W Illinois never really wanted a part of the Dakotas but it was their only choice and the IP's have always been longing for the Horizon since moving up from DII.  A good chance they will all be adios before next June as well as ORU.  We will be in a Summit football league in three years and never see the MVFC.

The new Summit won't have enough teams for men's soccer or baseball, making football the saving grace for a continued autobid.

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So, you saying the Summit will have football in 3 years and conference will have the following in 3 years:

Football

UND - NDSU

USD - SDSU

UM - MSU

EWU - UI (Idaho)

Non Football:

Denver, Omaha

And WIU, ORU and Fort Wayne with be gone by next June.

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