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[TRex]

darell1976, on 14 March 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

I just can't see over 10,000 for SD Mines. Maybe the anticipation of the season may draw that much, quality of opponent is what keeps me skeptical of 10,000. PSU should draw 10-11k or more.

I think a lot will depend on how well Mines travels.  I doubt UND can do it on our own, but if a great number of visitors show up, then it's possible.

[jdub27]

It will most likely be right around 9,000.  Probably a little bit more attended than last year's home opener, but I think with the opponent and it being on a Thursday night, it won't be much more than that.  Hopefully the team puts on a little bit of a show and attendance will top 10,000 the following week against Portland State.

[TRex]

jdub27, on 14 March 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

It will most likely be right around 9,000.  Probably a little bit more attended than last year's home opener, but I think with the opponent and it being on a Thursday night, it won't be much more than that.  Hopefully the team puts on a little bit of a show and attendance will top 10,000 the following week against Portland State.

I forgot that it's a Thursday game, so I doubt there will be much here in the way of Mines fans.  So, 9,000 is probably a maximum and I'd be surprised if it got any higher.

[Hansel]

TRex, on 14 March 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

I forgot that it's a Thursday game, so I doubt there will be much here in the way of Mines fans.  So, 9,000 is probably a maximum and I'd be surprised if it got any higher.

Mines averaged 200 fans at their home football games last year- so I doubt they ever travel well.

[bincitysioux]

darell1976, on 14 March 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

I just can't see over 10,000 for SD Mines.

Whoa, whoa, whoa!!!!!!!!!!!

You just said a little bit ago that the SD Mines game will only draw 6,000-8,000.  Now a few hours later you think it'll draw 10,000?  So which is it?

The opener against SD Mines will probably draw more than both the Cal Poly and SUU games.  Depending on whether or not there is a hockey game going on the day that we play Montana, the Mines game could very well draw more than the game against the Griz will.

It sucks that the SD Mines game won't count toward the playoffs, but that's just how the cookie crumbles.  You can say "it takes money to make money" but then again, it is not YOUR money that UND is working with.............................

[Cratter]

bincitysioux, on 14 March 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

Whoa, whoa, whoa!!!!!!!!!!!

You just said a little bit ago that the SD Mines game will only draw 6,000-8,000.  Now a few hours later you think it'll draw 10,000?  So which is it?

I think you misread. He said he can't see 10,000.

"Can't see over 10,000 people...might be 6-8,000."




My guess is 8,500-9,500. I will choose 9,368.

[darell1976]

Cratter, on 14 March 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

I think you misread. He said he can't see 10,000.

"Can't see over 10,000 people...might be 6-8,000."

My guess is 8,500-9,500. I will choose 9,368.

Correct

[TRex]

Hansel, on 14 March 2012 - 09:40 PM, said:

Mines averaged 200 fans at their home football games last year- so I doubt they ever travel well.

Maybe someone should tell them there is a big, beautiful world out here for them to see.  They just need to get out of that deep, dark hole they live in

[geaux_sioux]

Enough of our fans will be there to check out the new team the new uniforms the new turf and the new quarterback. Who cares if the SDSMTCTCSD fans come?

[Siouxperfan7]

Currently, NDSU has 3 games scheduled for their 2014 schedule. UND a lot of their schedule for 2014 figured out, but they still have open dates. Neither NDSU or UND have games scheduled for Sept. 13th or Sept. 20th in 2014. Can the AD's from both schools just do what the entire state wants them to do and schedule the long anticipated game between UND and NDSU on one of these dates? I can't be the only one to notice that these dates are open for both schools. I would hope Taylor and Faison have seen these dates open for both schools as well.

I hope that the game can be scheduled. Sooner rather than later. Its been almost 10 years since this game has been played. Its time. These dates are the next available option I can see. Let get this game scheduled!!!

[Sodbuster]

Yes. It's time.

[TRex]

Siouxperfan7, on 20 April 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Currently, NDSU has 3 games scheduled for their 2014 schedule. UND a lot of their schedule for 2014 figured out, but they still have open dates. Neither NDSU or UND have games scheduled for Sept. 13th or Sept. 20th in 2014. Can the AD's from both schools just do what the entire state wants them to do and schedule the long anticipated game between UND and NDSU on one of these dates? I can't be the only one to notice that these dates are open for both schools. I would hope Taylor and Faison have seen these dates open for both schools as well.

I hope that the game can be scheduled. Sooner rather than later. Its been almost 10 years since this game has been played. Its time. These dates are the next available option I can see. Let get this game scheduled!!!

I'm confused, how can NDSU only have 3 games scheduled for 2014?  I would assume they have the usual conference games as well.  Unless, of course the Mo Valley kicks them out for that offensive moniker.  

[FargoBison]

TRex, on 20 April 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

I'm confused, how can NDSU only have 3 games scheduled for 2014?  I would assume they have the usual conference games as well.  Unless, of course the Mo Valley kicks them out for that offensive moniker.  

I don't think the MVC has set their schedules that far in advance, plus USD is now a conference member so we only have two games scheduled(Montana at home and Iowa State on the road). That said I'd look for NDSU-UND to start in 2015.

[darell1976]

FargoBison, on 20 April 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:

I don't think the MVC has set their schedules that far in advance, plus USD is now a conference member so we only have two games scheduled(Montana at home and Iowa State on the road). That said I'd look for NDSU-UND to start in 2015.

Actually that USD game may be a non-conference game. Just like our game next year against Montana is a non-conference game. If the MVFC schedule isn't out most likely that USD game is NOT a conference game.

[Crossbuck]

Play them every year!

[tjamz]

Disclaimer:  I am a Bison fan and am not attempting to troll (at least not this thread)

I am serious when I say that I don't see an upside for NDSU playing UND.  Yes, it is/was a great rivalry, one of the best in college sports but it hasn't been one in quite a few years now if we are ALL being honest with each other.  

From NDSU's perspective we typically sell out almost every game at home as is.  Bringing in UND is not going to bring more fans (especially NDSU fans) to the table as there just isn't enough empty seats in the dome for this to happen.  If anything it will mean LESS Bison fans and more UND fans.  In a home field that is NOT the situation you want to put your team in.

Second, it will absolutely help attendance at the Alerus Center though, it will draw MANY more fans than has been typical as of late.  Great for UND, not a plus for NDSU.  It means another series of games that we have to squeeze into an already tight schedule and may cost us a chance (some years) to play FBS teams.  

Hypothetically, let's say the game was played this year (2012) as the first game of the year.  NDSU would be (as reigning champions) expected to win this game.  They would be the favorites in the eyes of any outside observer.  If NDSU does win, it's a meaningless win... we were supposed to, but if NDSU loses (which happens in rivalry games.... the best teams don't always win) it could be a devastating loss to the program that they may not recover from that year.  Again... Lose-Lose if you are NDSU.

From UND's perspective, it is all "Win-Win" however.
1.  More local fans at an away game
2.  Sell-out crowd at home
3.  As long as you can make it a game, it will look good once selection time for playoffs roll around.

[UNDBIZ]

tjamz, on 22 May 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

Disclaimer:  I am a Bison fan and am not attempting to troll (at least not this thread)

I am serious when I say that I don't see an upside for NDSU playing UND.  Yes, it is/was a great rivalry, one of the best in college sports but it hasn't been one in quite a few years now if we are ALL being honest with each other.  

From NDSU's perspective we typically sell out almost every game at home as is.  Bringing in UND is not going to bring more fans (especially NDSU fans) to the table as there just isn't enough empty seats in the dome for this to happen.  If anything it will mean LESS Bison fans and more UND fans.  In a home field that is NOT the situation you want to put your team in.

Yet another Moo U fan who doesn't understand the value of tv marketing.  I guess it's understandable, as the bizun have never had much of a following on tv.  Based on your attitude towards the rivalry, I'm gonna guess you're around 19 and didn't grow up in the RRV.

[Siouxperfan7]

UNDBIZ, on 22 May 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

Yet another Moo U fan who doesn't understand the value of tv marketing.  I guess it's understandable, as the bizun have never had much of a following on tv.  Based on your attitude towards the rivalry, I'm gonna guess you're around 19 and didn't grow up in the RRV.

That's the problem with a lot of the NDSU fans, students in particular.  They were in elementary school when this game was played last.  They really have no idea of how great of a game this was year after year.  To them playing UNI and SDSU are more important because the are familiar.  All of us who grew up seeing this rivarly know how bif this game was for BOTH schools.  The "They need this game more than we do" attitude is pathetic.  Get off your high horse and come out of the clouds.  I have a feeling reality will hit NDSU fans when UND has success in FCS and in the Big Sky.

[jdub27]

tjamz, on 22 May 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

From NDSU's perspective we typically sell out almost every game at home as is.  Bringing in UND is not going to bring more fans (especially NDSU fans) to the table as there just isn't enough empty seats in the dome for this to happen.  If anything it will mean LESS Bison fans and more UND fans.  In a home field that is NOT the situation you want to put your team in.

As has been explained many times, when NDSU joins the rest of the sports world by figuring out dynamic pricing, it may not bring more fans but will absolutely raise more revenue which helps soften the blow of the possible loss of an FBS game.  You can't tell me that there people would refuse to go because ticket prices are an extra $10 for that game (minimum), which would raise an extra $150,000 without doing a thing (19,000 tickets less 4,000 student tickets).

tjamz, on 22 May 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

Hypothetically, let's say the game was played this year (2012) as the first game of the year.  NDSU would be (as reigning champions) expected to win this game.  They would be the favorites in the eyes of any outside observer.  If NDSU does win, it's a meaningless win... we were supposed to, but if NDSU loses (which happens in rivalry games.... the best teams don't always win) it could be a devastating loss to the program that they may not recover from that year.  Again... Lose-Lose if you are NDSU.

NDSU runs the same risk by brining in cream puffs to start their season.  While not a rivalry game, anything can happen.  But then again you also state that UND/NDSU was a rival game but hasn't been one in quite a few years, so I guess you cancelled your own argument on that.

I can never figure out the logic of NDSU fans.  On one hand, they claim they are light years ahead of UND and the game wouldn't be close (much like the cream puffs NDSU brings in to start each season).  On the other hand they say that anything can happen and there is just that tiny possibility they could lose (which I don't hear about the cream puffs NDSU brings in).

[Risky]

Is it just me or do certain responses from Bison fans seem rather repetitive.  Like it is the same person writing in all the time just using different names.  The theory they keep repeating  is never supported by facts.  It is just hatred being spewed and no common sense.  I think they are just talking to themselves  and just trying to convince themselves that they are right.  They just don't get the BIG picture.