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That’s one way to look at the dynamics in 2003, but a more objective view would say: NDSU was being choked out in DII, and had a large upside in moving to the higher scholarship level with FB as its #1 sport. NDSU had struggled with coaching and AD transitions from 94-03, and had lost their compass. NDSU was at the right level of sports (16) in 2003, and was proactively planning and strategizing for a successful DI move. Und was resistant and in denial about DI. When they moved later, they did it because they had to, and had the wrong level of sports (21) to be successful. Conference affiliations early in DI, advantage NDSU. Name change and Pres/AD issues held Und back during the critical 03-10 period, similar to the earlier period at NDSU.

He was playing his Freshman recruit a lot. He had guys with more talent in the bench. It felt like he wanted them gone, but if he played them and they demo’ed talent, he would be challenged to keep them in the program. Very weird deal, how he treated previous recruits.

SDSU yes, previous coach played hardly anyone off the bench. Sather seems to like a very limited bench too. Why he redshirted players and kept others on bench when they could have helped was interesting. Not recruited by him, you had no shot it seemed.

Which is what NDSU did in ‘19 from the 4 seed. You need a longer bench, developed throughout the season, to weather 3 in a row at the tournament.

I know this is an old thread, but just wanted to comment. Lots of Summit League teams have gone through their conf schedules with very short benches. SDSU especially has kept it shorts. NDSU has gone 8-10 deep compared to others 7-8 during the conf schedule and leading up to March. It pays off come tourney time. It’s like being short on the DL, eventually it bites you. It wasn’t as big of a factor this year (unless you look at und lack of depth), but in ‘19, depth is the only way you win 3 in a row as a 4 seed. I don’t hear please talk about it, it you have to credit Dave R for developing his bench when others are working to limit their bench.

Drake, Butler, Valpo . . . What’s the diff?

Good hire by Western, but you have wonder how thin the ice is for Pitino that Jeter would take the Western job. Schools is reportedly struggling financially and there is little fan support there. Not a great job imo, especially with top 4 players leaving. Jeter will need to work some portal magic.

I’m going to address you, like you address others. MVC is not top 10, are you a complete idiot and have no knowledge of college basketball whatsoever? A10 top 10, MVC no, check any ranking. Typically 11-13. Loyola made a nice run and earned some money, but Creighton and Witchita are not coming back.

He’s a scholarship player.

The Bison roster will change quite abit next year, but I like the parts. I would expect Griesel Eady Knotek to grow and I mprove, but Shahid’s minutes will goto Don Carter, and Hayes and Christianson will get minutes. I also expect much more from Hunter his senior season and Cook who redshirted. Skunberg may get minutes right away too. I like the parts next year, and the depth . Rocky will also be expected to handle more scoring and lead the team, and I like his skill set.

Is the one bid MVC a promotion? Not much of a promotion if you ask me.

UST is currently DIII and have a lot of work to do. If they join the Summit, they’ll be there for 15 years minimum.

I agree, there aren’t too many teams in the summit that I can’t get up for. PFW has been really good in past years, so even that game has had its moments. I like umkc’s location, but they were really weak in their last summit stint, so we’ll see. Western is probably the worst as far as location and fan support, but their teams have been respectable most years. ORU and Denver are quality schools in good cities.

What is the objective opinion of being in the Summit vs the Big Sky with regard to league strength, style, etc? (Question not meant to anything more than a question. I know the Hawks had some stronger teams in past years)

Yes, it’s not just B1G, all of the P5 would like to find a way to take top players from FCS rosters.

B1G wants their players, and yours too. All top players should be migrating to the all powerful B1G, right?

I think you can structure a poll and often times get your desired results. McF’s desire is to show the folly of an FBS move. One could surmise that if an FBS move was as an independent, it would be the kiss of death, an thus a very unfavorable response. if however, the poll listed specific FBS conferences for moving to, the responses would have been much more favorable. Put the MWC or the AAC specifically in the poll (not that it would happen), and watch the favorability grow exponentially. So, that poll means nothing.

They could always cut scholarships again, you never know?

As UND learned and UST will find out, 21-22 sports in DI doesn’t work. UST will need to cull and grow their budget 20+ million to maintain 16 sports and compete. Playing DI scholarship hockey and football ain’t going to fly for at least 10 years. Suggesting there will be scholarship hockey and football right away is foolish.

Agree with you on all your points. Just pointing out that waiting for a split is like waiting for Sasquatch to be captured.

Oh, now the split is BIg Sky conference split? Going FBS, is that like going steady? Ya, I’m on the edge of my chair. You are a full fledged chameleon, I’m embarrassed for you.

Boy . . . I'm on the edge of my chair waiting for that Split, cause y'all know that that split thing is coming. You know, that Split that no one really knows anything about even though they act like they do. Ya that one, and boy I'm on the edge of chair in anticipation of that ole split thing. Cause ya know, I don't want to get left behind and stuff. Ya, I've got my eyes peeled waitin for that split that coming sometime between now and never. On the edge of my chair man!

The nickel would be the correct item to play for annually, the ncaa certainly does not care. But someone at Und thought it would a nice way to one up Ndsu by “retiring” it in their possession. If Ndsu had won it last, I have no doubt they’d be playing for it again. Let’s be honest folks.

Lots of 2’s 3’s and 4’s playing for Iowa St I’d presume. I don’t read much into that score. ISU dialed that one down before kickoff, with no desire to embarrass an in state lesser opponent. Score doesn’t surprise me.

Agreed, low low ceiling QB in Minny.